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	<title>Comments on: Conferences and Elitism</title>
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		<title>By: John Furrier</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Furrier</dc:creator>
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		<description>Dave, I don&#039;t think that Tom is being hurtful in his post.  He is articulating his opinion which makes sense.  Private events are fun and simulating.  Open events drive more discussion and are inclusive.  

The tech landscape is more global than ever before and connections matter.. like open systems interconnections before open relationships will create new changes.  That is where the action is.  Closed = Closed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I don&#8217;t think that Tom is being hurtful in his post.  He is articulating his opinion which makes sense.  Private events are fun and simulating.  Open events drive more discussion and are inclusive.  </p>
<p>The tech landscape is more global than ever before and connections matter.. like open systems interconnections before open relationships will create new changes.  That is where the action is.  Closed = Closed</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Winer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Winer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, good points.

I prefer to go to events that are open to all. The practical issues are manageable, as we&#039;ve found with Bloggercon. And sometimes its uncomfortable when someone says something that&#039;s off-topic, or hurtful to others, but that&#039;s the way life is, you can&#039;t control what people say about you. 

Tim is right not to invite me to Friends Of O&#039;Reilly -- I am not their friend. I&#039;m very picky about who I call a friend. The way they treat people pretty much means I&#039;ll never be friends of theirs, unless they change, and that&#039;s not tooooo likely. 

Let&#039;s build on open structures, like the blogosphere itself. We didn&#039;t just allow friends to ping weblogs.com, people who dissed me were allowed on the network too. If I hadn&#039;t been open about it, someone would have come along an invented one that was open and that&#039;s what we would have built on.

Similary, the community that ORA is building is a dead-end, it leads to boastful hurtful posts like the one from Coates. I don&#039;t want to be part of that! People need to think about what they want to support. I don&#039;t think good people want to support that kind of meanness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, good points.</p>
<p>I prefer to go to events that are open to all. The practical issues are manageable, as we&#8217;ve found with Bloggercon. And sometimes its uncomfortable when someone says something that&#8217;s off-topic, or hurtful to others, but that&#8217;s the way life is, you can&#8217;t control what people say about you. </p>
<p>Tim is right not to invite me to Friends Of O&#8217;Reilly &#8212; I am not their friend. I&#8217;m very picky about who I call a friend. The way they treat people pretty much means I&#8217;ll never be friends of theirs, unless they change, and that&#8217;s not tooooo likely. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s build on open structures, like the blogosphere itself. We didn&#8217;t just allow friends to ping weblogs.com, people who dissed me were allowed on the network too. If I hadn&#8217;t been open about it, someone would have come along an invented one that was open and that&#8217;s what we would have built on.</p>
<p>Similary, the community that ORA is building is a dead-end, it leads to boastful hurtful posts like the one from Coates. I don&#8217;t want to be part of that! People need to think about what they want to support. I don&#8217;t think good people want to support that kind of meanness.</p>
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